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  <title>on what we owe our communities</title>
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  <description>&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Over at the&amp;nbsp;&lt;u&gt;NY Time&lt;/u&gt;&apos;s &amp;quot;Opinionator,&amp;quot; Seyla Benhabib took on Obama&apos;s decision not to deport a certaion groups of undocumented immigrants. It&apos;s really quite interesting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/stone-immigration/&quot; href=&quot;http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/stone-immigration/&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot;&gt;http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/stone-immigration/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;To lay my cards on the table, I happen to believe that most of our laws on immigration are unjust laws. While a country certainly has a right to keep accurate tabs on who comes into a country and even to limit who comes in, either individually or as groups if there&apos;s a legitimate reason to do that, I think our laws often go too far. (&amp;quot;This man is a known narcotics trafficker&amp;quot; would be one such reason, as would &amp;quot;This group is too large or too poor for our society to reasonably support them.&amp;quot; I&apos;d even say many countries could give a third type of reason, &amp;quot;We cannot absorb them into our culture without losing our own identity,&amp;quot; though I wouldn&apos;t put a melting-pot-based society like America in that group.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;My real beef with American immigration policy is that we depend on the illegal immigrants out of one side of the mouth and label them as criminals&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;in who they are, not what they do&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;out of the other.&amp;nbsp;As this article points out, California agriculture depends on cheap labor. So do any other number of other businesses. These jobs are typically sub-minimum wage and paid under the table (so no taxes paid by the business). I&apos;d argue we all rely on cheap labor that&apos;s denied legal recourse for whatever bad things are done to them. It basically sets up two classes of citizens (and I&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;consider immigrants &amp;ndash; people who permanently join a society, legally or otherwise &amp;ndash; to be citizens in the philosophical sense if not the legal one), and I&apos;m not crazy about living in a society built on that. Not that any other society is really any better here, and not that there&apos;s a whole lot I can do about it, but it does make me feel complicit in something I don&apos;t like.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;So I&apos;m predisposed to be in favor of this argument. My main qualm with Obama&apos;s DREAM-like action is that it affects so few immigrants, and siphons off the most sympathetic immigrants from the larger community. But still, I find Dr. Benhabib&apos;s argument confused. She seems to be drawing on two different philosophical traditions and acting like they&apos;re compatible. Since I&apos;m going to be teaching these two approaches to justice with my students in just a few hours, I thought it might be interesting and useful to lay them out here, and apply them to this particular argument.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;(By the way, this discussion of communitarianism vs. voluntarism is taken more or less from Ch. 9 of Michael Sandel&apos;s book&amp;nbsp;&lt;u&gt;Justice: What&apos;s the Right Thing to Do&lt;/u&gt;; I highly recommend it.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Dr. Benhabib appeals to Kant&apos;s &amp;quot;duty of hospitality.&amp;quot; She writes:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;If conditions in a person&apos;s native country so endanger his life and well-being and he becomes willing to risk illegality in order to survive, his right to survival, from a moral point of view, carries as much weight as does the new country&apos;s claim to control borders against migrants Immanuel Kant, therefore, called the moral claim to seek refuge or respite in the lands of another, a &amp;quot;universal right of hospitality,&amp;quot; provided that the intentions of the foreigner upon arriving on foreign lands were peaceful. Such a right, he argued, belonged to each human being placed on this planet who had to share the earth with others.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I&apos;ve never heard of this particular bit of Kant&apos;s philosophy, but it does sound like him. I&apos;ve proved over the last several weeks how hard it is for me to speak authoritatively about Kant&apos;s moral philosophy, so here I&apos;ll rely on Sandel&apos;s summary of the relationship between Kant&apos;s account of freedom and communal obligations:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;To be free is to be autonomous, and to be autonomous, is to be governed by a law I give myself. Kantian autonomy is more demanding than consent. When I will the moral law, I don&apos;t simply choose according to my contingent desires or allegiances. Instead, I step back from my particular interests and attachments, and will as a participant in pure practical reason. [&amp;hellip;] Kant&apos;s idea of an autonomous will and Rawls&apos;s idea of a hypothetical agreement behind a veil of ignorance have this in common: both conceive the moral agent as independent of his or her particular aims and attachments. When we will the moral law (Kant) or choose the principles of justice (Rawls), we do so without reference to the roles and identities that situate us in the world and make us the particular people we are. (Sandel pp. 213-214)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;What Sandel&apos;s getting at here is that we are only Americans or Britons or whatever, by virtue of a historical accident. There&apos;s no reason I&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to be born in the American South, with all that carries with it as far as the way I view the world and my moral obligations. So while I may think I have a duty to put other Americans first &amp;ndash; &amp;quot;buy American,&amp;quot; monitor the border, care more about the lives of American deaths than Afghani deaths or however you want to put it &amp;ndash; I don&apos;t&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;have any obligation here. And it may make sense to have communities and develop them, at a practical level. But I think Kant would be hard-pressed to explain why those communities are morally relevant, certainly to the point that they outweigh someone&apos;s right to preserve their life. (Someone who&apos;s a better Kant scholar than I am, could perhaps offer an explanation of why communal obligations&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;morally relevant and not just based on a hypothetical imperative, perhaps, but I can&apos;t see it based on what I understand of him.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Anyway, so far Dr. Benhabib&apos;s on solid footing as far as I can tell. The trouble is she then makes a very un-Kantian move. She writes:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;We do have special obligations to our neighbors, as opposed to moral obligations to humanity at large, if, for example, our economy has devastated theirs; if our industrial output has led to environmental harm or if our drug dependency had encouraged the formation of transnational drug cartels.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;These claims of interdependence require a third moral principle &amp;ndash; in addition to the right of universal hospitality and the right to self-government &amp;ndash; to be brought into consideration: associative obligations among peoples arising through historical factors.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;This sounds very much to me like the communitarian approach to ethics that Sandel outlines. Kant (according to Sandel) basically thought we only have two kinds of obligations: natural duties, that we owe to everyone just because they&apos;re human, and voluntary obligations, things we agreed to ourselves. So there&apos;s really no sense in talking about making up for what your ancestors had done, or feeling proud of it. As Sandel explains:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;If, in thinking about justice, we just abstract from our particular duties, it is hard to make the case that present-day Germans bear a special responsibility to make recompense for the Holocaust, or that Americans of this generation have a special responsibility to remedy the injustice of slavery and segregation. Why? Because once I set aside my identity as a german or an American and conceive myself as a free and independent self, there is no basis for saying my obligation to remedy these historic injustices is greater than anyone else&apos;s. (Sandel p. 214).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;The thing is, the way I understand&amp;nbsp;these points, they can&apos;t both be true &amp;ndash; at least not for the reasons pointed to. If I have a Kantian duty to hospitality because it&apos;s a Kantian duty, can I also have special obligations to those living near me? Particularly since I wasn&apos;t alive when America enacted the drug policies that encouraged the cartel (so any special obligation I have to help these peoples because I&apos;m an American&amp;nbsp;is distinctly non-Kantian). Unless I&apos;m missing something about Kant?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I&apos;ve really enjoyed teaching Kant&apos;s and Aristotle&apos;s accounts of freedom and justice, and I find the whole contemporary debate utterly fascinating. But the way I read things, the two sides aren&apos;t really compatible; if you&apos;re a communitarian, you seem to be rejecting some pretty crucial claims made by Kant, and vice versa. That Dr. Benhabib tries to draw from both sides is a bit frustrating, because I think a lot of what she&apos;s saying individually works pretty well but put together it just undercuts itself. It&apos;s actually a problem I see a lot in student papers, where they will just take bits from different theories, without worrying about whether the foundations for those ideas make sense together. Given that this is a full professor writing this, and given that I&apos;m really and truly not a Kant expert, I&apos;m hoping I&apos;m missing something in Kant&apos;s thoughts that makes this move possible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Regardless, it&apos;s good to see professional philosophers working on this issue. Personally, I tend to think if an immigrant is willing to throw his lot in with a society, said society needs a damned good reason to exclude him &amp;ndash; particularly in a society built on immigration, as is the case with America (and really, if you go back far enough, is the case anywhere). But that&apos;s probably coming more out of my own Christian tradition more than anything you&apos;ll find in philosophy. You know, Abraham keeping his tent open on all four sides and all that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(P.S., I started this before class this morning and only finished it now, nearly twelve hours later. So any odd wording, seeming obsession with certain books, etc. may be explained by that.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/101541.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=64790&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:11:02 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>friendship as more than just a membership status</title>
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  <description>&lt;blockquote style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wishing to be friends is quick work, but friendship is a slow-ripening fruit. (Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics 8.3&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;My FaceBook feed has been hopping quite a bit discussing political issues. I guess it always is, but for some reason I&apos;m more aware of it than I usually am. Between the Chick-Fil-A blow-up and the Colorado shootings (and really, the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;only&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;thing these things have in common is that they&apos;ve been talked about a lot lately!), my more liberal friends have been passing around a lot of pictures with pithy quotes or sarcastic one-liners. Some of it is clever (the thought of one I saw a few days saying that Kermit and Miss Piggy had been supporting non-traditional marriage since 1974 or whenever still cracks me up).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;But much of it isn&apos;t nearly so light-hearted. It makes it seem like &amp;quot;the other guys&amp;quot; (whoever they are) are completely unreasonable, either by taking a thoroughly reasonable point and making it seem like no atheist/Christian/liberal/conservative/whatever could ever agree with it... or by simply creating a straw man of what the other side actually says. And here&apos;s the thing. Sharing these things just takes a click of the mouse, and I know a lot of people share what they think is &amp;quot;neat&amp;quot; without necessarily thinking about how it will come across to others. It can create a world-class echo chamber - often from both sides at once!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Sometimes these memes start good conversations. If it&apos;s a friend who seems genuinely interesting in discussing these issues, I&apos;ll a lot of times comment and explain how and why I reacted. But with some people I get the impression that they&apos;re sharing this stuff to create a sense that *everyone* agrees with them (certainly every reasonable person). And it goes beyond that. Just in the last week I&apos;ve seen three separate &amp;quot;friends&amp;quot; (the label works pretty much the same way on FB and LJ) say that if &amp;quot;you don&apos;t agree with me on _______, maybe we shouldn&apos;t be friends any more. Where _______ is usually a cause of some kind or a cherished belief, like the idea that gun control was important or that homophobia shouldn&apos;t be tolerated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;I&apos;ve always been bothered by the way FB and LJ use the word&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;to mean someone following my blog or updates. I love interacting with people on that level but that isn&apos;t what friendship is about. I mean no disrespect to people who choose to end an acquaintance because the person disagrees with you on some issue. That&apos;s certainly your right and I don&apos;t have any particular bone to pick with people who choose to do that. But when you call people in this relationship&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;, I think that just muddles things up in the worst kind of way.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Lots of philosophers discussed friendship, but I think one of my favorite depictions has to be Aristotle&apos;s. For the non-philosophers in the house,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11470456/Teaching/Readings/Thorsrud%20-%20Voldemort%27s%20Agents%20Malfoy%27s%20Cronies%20and%20Hagrid%27s%20Chums.pdf&quot; href=&quot;https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11470456/Teaching/Readings/Thorsrud%20-%20Voldemort%27s%20Agents%20Malfoy%27s%20Cronies%20and%20Hagrid%27s%20Chums.pdf&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot; style=&quot;font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Harald Thorsrud provides a decent introduction to Aristotle on friendship using&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Harry Potter&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;examples&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;. The gist is that Aristotle recognizes three kinds of friendships, from friends of convenience up through true friendships built around virtue. The true friendship is one that lasts, but more than that it&apos;s one that&apos;s built on improvement. I love you and want to become more like you so those virtues that you have and I lack, I try to develop. And vice versa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;When you say a friendship can and should be ended over an &amp;quot;issue,&amp;quot; what I hear is that you think&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;I&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;can be dismissed over an issue. That&apos;s a pretty pale version of friendship, to my mind. And I realize that on the internet &amp;quot;friend&amp;quot; doesn&apos;t mean what it does off the internet, but that&apos;s sad to me. I&apos;ve known lots of people online longer than I have hear in New York. We&apos;ve probably seen each other through more situations and spent more time chatting, too. Fandom does that, but I think the internet in general does it, too. These are true friendships in the Aristotelian sense, or at least as close as us moderns ever get. I know I can count on them not to run for cover when the going gets rough.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;All of which makes me sad to see such an awesome concept and reality used in such a casual way. Because I am much, much more than my stance on gun control, and if our friendship is anywhere close to the authentic ideal Aristotle requires, I need my friends to see that about me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Is this just semantics, a convenient name? Maybe. But even that seems wrong somehow. Because I think that when many people think of and use that word &amp;quot;friends&amp;quot; they really do just mean people whose blogs they follow. I try not to say that, because the word is worth holding on to. Doubly so for the truth behind the word.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Btw, this whole thing reminded me of an old&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lXjA7lxj_E&quot; href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lXjA7lxj_E&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot; style=&quot;font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Seinfeld clip&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;; hilarious, but also a nice take on just what&apos;s bothering me so much about this use of friendship.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/100637.html&quot;&gt;Originally posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br type=&quot;_moz&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=64384&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:28:31 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Peter Singer and religious liberty</title>
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  <description>&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;This week, Peter Singer made me do something that I won&amp;#39;t soon forgive him for: he caused me to defend the Roman Catholic Church. On more than one occasion, actually. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;I wrote several months back about the RCC&amp;#39;s response to the contraception mandate. (Quick recap for non-Americans: Obamacare requires that all insurance plans cover &amp;quot;preventive care&amp;quot; like contraception, and only makes exceptions for clergy and other people employed by houses of worship &amp;ndash; but not for people at religion-affiliated groups like Catholic hospitals and universities. The RCC hierarchy and several other religious institutions have resisted this aspect of the law because they think it interferes with religious liberty, since it would force religious groups other than churches to pay for things they considered deeply immoral.) I haven&amp;#39;t really changed my mind on that whole issue, and I still think employers shouldn&amp;#39;t be allowed to impose their morality on their employers through things like health care policies. It&amp;#39;s perfectly legitimate to say that I am only allowed to be reimbursed up to a certain cap, or that procedures need to be proven effective at accomplishing their goal; but it&amp;#39;s not up to the employer to decide whether that goal is a good one or not. I still think that whether the employer is religious or not is irrelevant here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;But I&amp;#39;m not going to press that issue any more just now. There are bigger fish to fry. Last week the ethicist Peter Singer published an editorial talking about religious liberty. If you aren&amp;#39;t familiar with his work, he actually has a good FAQ available &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:http://www.princeton.edu/~psinger/faq.html&quot;&gt;at his website&lt;/a&gt; outlining his views. Basically, Singer is a utilitarian (meaning actions are judged based on their consequences, how much pleasure and pain they create &amp;ndash; for us and for anything else including non-human animals). Because of this, Singer&amp;#39;s become a favorite son of the animal rights movement. In particular, he&amp;#39;s very much against slaughter-houses where animals suffer greatly to provide meat, milk, and eggs more cheaply to us humans. As you can imagine, he&amp;#39;s all for doing anything that will keep those animals from suffering, up to and including becoming a vegetarian (he is one) if the joy of eating meat is outweighed by the slaughtered animal&amp;#39;s suffering.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Hence, the editorial: &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/the-use-and-abuse-of-religious-freedom&quot;&gt;The Use and Abuse of Religious Freedom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;See, some countries around the world have banned certain kinds of animal slaughter. Religious groups often have a problem here because unlike modern slaughtering practices where the animal is often stunned so it&amp;#39;s unconscious when it&amp;#39;s actually killed, kosher and halal laws require the animal to be conscious when it&amp;#39;s killed. Those same laws also require that the butcher use a smooth blade so the animal wouldn&amp;#39;t feel pain, and they restrict the situations under which meat can be eaten at all. In my opinion this gives the animal a dignity and a moral status you don&amp;#39;t see in the slaughterhouses (frankly, I struggle to imagine anything less ethical than knocking anyone unconscious, human or no, and then hacking them up while they&amp;#39;re unable to defend themselves), but I guess if we&amp;#39;re looking just at the avoidance of pain, the stunning method is probably best.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Singer argued that these laws don&amp;#39;t really violate religious liberty because there&amp;#39;s nothing &lt;i&gt;requiring&lt;/i&gt; Jews and Muslims to eat meat slaughtered in the wrong way. They could simply become vegetarians. According to Singer, we don&amp;#39;t need to worry about religious liberty unless a law actually contradicts a religious requirement. They can just go vegetarian if they don&amp;#39;t want to break their religion&amp;#39;s requirements.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Singer also applies this definition of religious liberty to the contraception mandate, and here&amp;#39;s where I really start disagreeing with him. I&amp;#39;m no expert on vegetarianism and the arguments for and against it, so this question of whether Jews and Muslims should have to go vegetarianism only affects me in a vague sort of way. I simply don&amp;#39;t feel all that strongly about it either way, although it does strike me as basically unjust. On the other hand, I study and teach at a Catholic school. Catholic higher education is something I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; know and care about, so when Singer took aim at that, I couldn&amp;#39;t help but take notice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Here&amp;#39;s Singer&amp;#39;s take on the contraception mandate:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Likewise, the Obama administration&amp;#39;s requirement to provide health insurance that covers contraception does not prevent Catholics from practicing their religion. Catholicism does not oblige its adherents to run hospitals and universities. [&amp;hellip;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Of course, the Catholic Church would be understandably reluctant to give up its extensive networks of hospitals and universities. My guess is that, before doing so, they would come to see the provision of health-insurance coverage for contraception as compatible with their religious teachings. But, if the Church made the opposite decision, and handed over its hospitals and universities to bodies that were willing to provide the coverage, Catholics would still be free to worship and follow their religion&amp;#39;s teachings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;So again we have this idea that nothing is &lt;u&gt;forcing&lt;/u&gt; Catholics to open hospitals and universities and other institutions whose employees are entitled to contraception coverage under the health care law. I don&amp;#39;t actually agree with him there. Whatever we might say about vegetarianism (and I&amp;#39;ll leave that question to those better informed than me), Christianity does command that we heal the sick and teach people both about Christianity&amp;#39;s specific revelation and about the world more generally. In the modern world, the best way to do this is to set up hospitals and schools, including universities. Are we really prepared to say there are no religious liberty issues when you tell Catholics they can&amp;#39;t heal the sick, when the Bible probably gives us more explicit commands to do that than it does to worship God? That just seems perverse to me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Of course, the contraception mandate doesn&amp;#39;t keep Catholics from healing the sick. You don&amp;#39;t actually have to set up a hospital to treat the sick (individual Catholics could work at non-Catholic hospitals, for instance). And if you had a hospital where everyone was a completely faithful Catholic, the issue just wouldn&amp;#39;t come up; I have a hard time imagining most of the Catholics upset about religious liberty violations being so against the mandate if Catholic hospitals and universities weren&amp;#39;t actually paying for contraception because no one working there was putting claims in for it. Also, Catholics aren&amp;#39;t necessarily faced with a choice between paying for contraception and closing down their hospitals and universities; they could just pay the fines for noncompliance, for example. Still, there &lt;u&gt;are&lt;/u&gt; religious liberty issues here. The reason these workarounds are necessary is Catholic does condemn contraception use (even the non-abortifacient kind). Catholicism requires more than just a certain kind of worship.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;The tricky part here is that Catholic institutions regularly hire non-Catholics. I&amp;#39;m deeply uncomfortable with the idea that my employer gets to impose his morality on areas of my life having nothing to do with my job. (To be fair, I&amp;#39;m also deeply uncomfortable with the idea that our currently society forces this decision on the RCC and other religious groups; in my ideal world health insurance wouldn&amp;#39;t be tied to the employers at all.) Catholic hospitals just about have to hire non-Catholics because there simply aren&amp;#39;t always enough Catholic cardiologists and medical billing specialists available in a certain geographical area to completely staff a hospital with people willing to accept the Church&amp;#39;s teaching on contraception. This is doubly difficult for universities, where you probably are looking for a person with a very specific expertise. If a Catholic university could only hire Catholic professors that would seriously undermine its ability to attract the best people. I&amp;#39;m not saying Catholics don&amp;#39;t make good academics (far from it!), but in academia you usually want someone with a very narrow specialty. That means you really want the widest applicant pool you can get.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;In our society, we typically provide health insurance through companies. To my mind, it&amp;#39;s part of the compensation you get for working there. It&amp;#39;s also the price companies and institutions pay because we don&amp;#39;t subsidize health care (or health insurance) through our taxes. That means less of a tax burden for companies and individuals, but it also means more responsibilities fall to those companies and individuals (and non-profit institutions like the RCC) to provide the care society needs. A government without tax $$$ sure can&amp;#39;t do it. If I could afford health care without my employer&amp;#39;s help (either independently or through government programs) I wouldn&amp;#39;t need its approval to get the health care I needed. And so it strikes me as seriously unfair that my employer should be able to decide what health care is available to me, simply because I&amp;#39;m not poor enough to qualify for government assistance or rich enough to afford it all on my own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;I know lots of people will disagree with me on this. I can just see Brendan Palla shaking his head, because this is precisely the argument we&amp;#39;ve had in the past. My point isn&amp;#39;t so much that I&amp;#39;m right and those who think the contraception mandate is an assault on religious liberty are wrong. What I &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; trying to say is, this is an issue where religious liberty comes into play. It may not win the argument, either because the RCC gave up its claim to religious liberty here by hiring non-Catholics or because religious liberty is somehow outweighed by other concerns. But even I don&amp;#39;t buy the argument that there&amp;#39;s &lt;u&gt;no&lt;/u&gt; religious liberty concern here. It&amp;#39;s just that that&amp;#39;s not the end of the story. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;The thing is, I&amp;#39;d actually feel this way even if Christianity didn&amp;#39;t explicitly command us to care for the sick and educate people. Dr. Singer&amp;#39;s definition of religious liberty is pretty restrictive, and I&amp;#39;d actually like to impose another one. Religious liberty means not being forced by the law to choose between what your religion requires and the kinds of thing most people in your society consider naturally good &amp;ndash; things like eating meat and using public transportation, for example. Religious liberty shouldn&amp;#39;t force people to choose between their religion and being a full member of society. (That includes taking full advantage of the kind of thing people in your society naturally value.) You can freely give up those things, but if the law forces you to give that up or otherwise violate your religion, there are religious liberty issues involved.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;background:white;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;That doesn&amp;#39;t mean those religious freedom concerns win out every time, of course. But just discounting them full-stop isn&amp;#39;t the way to go about figuring out where justice lies. Religious liberty means more than just the freedom to worship.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/93554.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=58875&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 20:10:25 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>my debate with Dan</title>
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  <description>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;A few days ago Dan Fincke and I sat down for a debate as part of his blogathon to support the Secular Student Alliance. It was the first time I&amp;#39;d done anything of the kind, and I&amp;#39;m trying to look at it in terms of what I can do better, both in terms of setting up the interview (I&amp;#39;m not nearly the night-owl I thought I was, for one thing) and of explaining my thoughts better on the fly. All of which are good, even if I wish I had been better able to explain myself in the actual debate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;You can read the debate &lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers/2012/06/15/what-about-philosophical-christianity-with-progressive-values-a-debate-with-marta-layton/comment-page-1/#comment-345135&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Basically, we talked about four things: why I support the SSA; why I think Christianity shouldn&amp;#39;t condemn homosexuality; what as a Christian I made of the Biblical story where my supposedly all-good, all-knowing God ordered the Israelites to wipe out the Canaanites; and what it would take for me to give up what Dan called the &amp;quot;God Hypothesis.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/58343.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;deep philosophical thoughts behind the cut&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;It was an interesting debate, even though as I said I hope I&amp;#39;ll do better next time. (Among other things, it&amp;#39;s made me realize that I&amp;#39;m really more interested in constructive dialogue rather than debates between rivals.) Still, I was glad to do my part for the SSA. Do read Dan and my debate, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers/2012/06/15/the-blogathon-interview-table-of-contents/&quot;&gt;the many other interviews he did&lt;/a&gt; &amp;ndash; there&amp;#39;s some really thought-provoking stuff here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/93119.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=58343&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:24:37 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>emocat experiences existential angst</title>
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  <description>Apparently, in France even the kitties are existentialists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/56420.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/90360.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=56420&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 01:16:25 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>thoughts on gender</title>
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  <description>&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;I had two experiences. First, I went shopping and finished off my teaching wardrobe - several pairs of black linenslacks, white blouses, and a light-weight blazer jacket. All from women&apos;s stores, but the style is always a bit tom-boyish. As am I; my voice has always been low-pitched and I&apos;ve always favored short hair, jeans + tees, and no make-up.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Item the second: While on the train, I read a really interesting article from the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;New York Magazine&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;about transgendered children: &amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;http://nymag.com/news/features/transgender-children-2012-6/index2.html&quot; href=&quot;http://nymag.com/news/features/transgender-children-2012-6/index2.html&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot; style=&quot;font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;S/he&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;.&amp;quot; It&apos;s well worth the read but longish, so here&apos;s the gist. Many transgendered people realize their cis-gender (the one assigned at birth by their parents and society; usually the biological gender). This being New York, you had some reasonably progressive parents trying to make sense of this and support the kids. It&apos;s a nice glimpse into transphobia even at that level (one parent&apos;s response I found particularly interesting was from a dad who didn&apos;t want to suggest to the child there was anything wrong with being a girl, and so he was at first hesitant to get on board with his cis-female son&apos;s identifying as male.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;But there&apos;s more to it than that. Say your kid tells you at the tender age of five that &amp;quot;she&amp;quot; wants to be treated as a he - that he really believes he is a boy, despite being anatomically female. That may be more-or-less feasible at five (setting aside transphobia the kid may have to deal with), but what about at thirteen? Because while Marcia may answer to Mark and dress and act and play as a boy, but there&apos;s still estrogen flowing through his body - meaning that puberty will come quickly, and with it the breasts and the menstruation. It would be traumatic. The problem is, doctors suggest the transgendered not start taking artificial hormones until they&apos;re at least sixteen. That&apos;s years of being trapped in a body that feels less and less like yours, with all that carries with it regarding social interaction and expectations. And we thought gay bullying was bad. I mean, it is, but this? :-S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;So to address the situation, some parents have turned to what&apos;s called puberty-blockers - drugs that keep a body from going through puberty, until the child is old enough to start hormone treatment and go through puberty as their chosen gender. (The kid can also go through puberty as his or her cis-gender, simply by stopping the puberty blockers.) But it&apos;s a tough call. Several of the parents refer to it as &amp;quot;playing God&amp;quot; or think it marks transgenderism off as a disease (which most LGBT allies, myself included, wholeheartedly deny).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Reading all this, I felt an immense sympathy for anyone going through this. Even with supportive parents, it strikes me as an enormously tough needle for a seven-year-old to thread. And given that most parents probably aren&apos;t supportive - either through their own beliefs or simply being a bit mystified by it all - I can only imagine what that&apos;s like. By the experience of transgender children as it&apos;s explained here resonated deep within me. I&apos;m not transgender, but I&apos;m enough of a tomboy that I never felt drawn to many of the traditional teenage things - dating, dances, and the like. I&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;liked&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;being one of the boys and was most comfortable where gender simply didn&apos;t matter. More to the point, I&apos;m all too familiar with the no man&apos;s land between different groups. With religion/atheism in particular but other issues as well, where it sometimes felt like I could never be my whole self with anyone - like I always had to fashion my identity. This isn&apos;t a criticism of the people I grew up around, or the people at my church who I always seem to be too liberal or too traditionalist to truly fit in with (depending on the group), or my secular humanist friends who try to make sense of why an intelligent person would continue to claim a religious label. But sometimes it feels like, on an issue of great importance to me, I can&apos;t fully &amp;quot;be myself&amp;quot; - either because I don&apos;t know who I am or because I&apos;m not brave enough to put myself out there, but in either case it&apos;s a true mind-warp at times.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;None of this makes me transgendered. But I think it makes me particularly sympathetic to people who have a hard time getting who they really are &amp;quot;seen&amp;quot; by others. And maybe in my case the blindness of other folks is all in my head. But whatever the reason, my heart just breaks for these kids having to navigate this world and maybe feeling like even their own parents don&apos;t really see them for who they really are. That&apos;s hard. &amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/88806.html&quot;&gt;posted on LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=54799&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 00:42:32 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Why should atheists have all the best thinkers?</title>
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  <description>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;Recently I read an article about Miley Cyrus and how she wasn&amp;#39;t acting like she was twelve anymore. Miley says some really interesting things about what it means to find yourself when you&amp;#39;re a child-star, and also talks about sex and the double-standard women face in Hollywood. Now, say I posted a link to that article here with a comment along the lines of how nice it would be if she turned out to be a Christian.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;Something like that happened recently on a friend&amp;#39;s FB page, only there my friend posted a link and a third party commented saying he hoped Miley was an atheist. That comment really got me thinking, because if I had said something similar coming at it from a Christian perspective, I&amp;#39;d expect some raised eyebrows around here. At a minimum. Such a comment would imply one of two things: either I thought Miley&amp;#39;s comments couldn&amp;#39;t be good unless they came from a Christian, or else I wanted all good things to be &lt;u&gt;associated&lt;/u&gt; with Christianity. Either way, I can see how you guys might get a bit offended, or at least be confused why I should be concerned. A claim like that, if I heard someone else make it, would strike me as oddly provincial. And also selfish; whatever&amp;#39;s good, I&amp;#39;d want to make it available to the most people possible. And since people tend to listen to their own groups more than they do &amp;quot;outsiders,&amp;quot; that means I&amp;#39;d want wise people and thought-provoking comments coming from &lt;u&gt;all&lt;/u&gt; corners of society &amp;ndash; not just mine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/54068.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/87818.html&quot;&gt;at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=54068&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <title>yet more on gay marriage</title>
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  <description>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;My last exam is graded (well, except for the one student who has to make up the exam next week), and while I still have some research due for my advisor, I can breathe a bit at last. So I want to go back to a point I just mentioned at the end of my &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/86025.html&quot;&gt;last post&lt;/a&gt;. Namely: if you vote against gay marriage, does that mean you&amp;#39;re just a homophobe? The story-line is pretty standard: Gay marriage won&amp;#39;t destroy straight marriage since straight men aren&amp;#39;t going to suddenly leave their wives or anything; the &lt;u&gt;only&lt;/u&gt; impact it has is letting homosexuals marry; so if you&amp;#39;re against gay marriage you must be homophobic. Is it really that simple?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think so. Now, I&amp;#39;m actually in favor of the state having one status (civil unions, marriage, whatever &amp;ndash; I&amp;#39;m not picky about the label) open to both homosexuals and heterosexuals. As a Christian, I actually think Christian churches should open up the marriage sacrament to gay couples as well, but that&amp;#39;s a totally different topic. But I also get why some people think of marriage is for straight couples only. And it has next to nothing to do with homosexuality, let alone homophobia.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/53055.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=53055&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 04:30:19 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>thoughts on Amendment One</title>
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  <description>Tonight North Carolina voted to make it not only illegal but also unconstitutional for two adults to build a legally-recognized family unit, simply because those adults are the same gender. It&apos;s a bit odd - I haven&apos;t lived in NC since 2006, but I still feel like a Tarheel at heart, and NC news tends to hit me harder than NY news does. For me, this amendment isn&apos;t academic, it isn&apos;t general - it is a slap in the face to all affected, no matter the remove. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have my own history with a good friend from my undergrad days who happened to be gay. And I remember the way he was impacted by homophobia he experienced. It breaks my heart to think of the gay, lesbian, whatever kid who&apos;s sitting in his college dorm room hearing that his state doesn&apos;t think whatever love he might find should be protected by law. The one consolation I have is that this kid, if he&apos;s been following the news all along, might have seen that many people in his state didn&apos;t feel this way. But I know how news media works. All those clergymen who signed the petition saying they opposed the amendment are dwarfed by &lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/52693.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;that shameful Billy Graham ad&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This amendment process is offensive and insensitive to a minority group. It&apos;s also harmful to families with heterosexual parents but that aren&apos;t bound by parents. As has been pointed out many times, it makes it harder to deal with domestic violence, child welfare and any other range of things that affect stable but unmarried couples. But things like this are really and truly discouraging because they point to how little value we place on rational argument in this society. The bottom line is, in an amendment ratification process like this the best argument doesn&apos;t become law. Direct democracy like this doesn&apos;t give any weight to how well-considered your reasoning is. Are you voting because you have thought things through and one way or the other decided on a position, or are you voting out of fear or on a whim? The votes add up the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, it should not need to be said, but in case it does: not everything is up for a vote. I can&apos;t speak to legal rights - I heard somewhere that some Supreme Court marriage is a right, but I don&apos;t recall the details - but philosophically, the ability to form a family unit and receive legal protection of the same is a &lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt;. Sometimes the state has a good reason to keep two people from marrying, like with incest or pedophilia where consent is iffy, but there&apos;s just not a reason here. (As a side note, it actually amused me to no end that if we&apos;re looking for a biblical definition of marriage, polygamy probably comes closer to the mark than the one man, one woman formula. But that&apos;s neither here nor there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know I&apos;ve quoted this passage here before, but on nights like this, I have to go back to Dr. King. He wrote in the Birmingham letter:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___2&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/52693.html#cutid2&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___2&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Laws like this are a kind of segregation. And they make me sick.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One other thing: I know a lot of people will say that this is an instance of religion needing to stay out of politics. One thing I have seen over these last few weeks, though, is that religious people have been among the most active in challenging stereotypes and unchallenged beliefs some people have. The backward pastors encouraging parents to beat their limp-wristed children get all the attention, of course, but then you also have pastors like this guy:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___3&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/52693.html#cutid3&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___3&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;m not convinced that this had much to do with religion, and to the extent it did, I&apos;d suspect it was more religion used as a crutch for hatred and us-vs-them mentality. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enough of that, though. And enough of these high-brow words. Tonight, I just wanted anyone hurt by this amendment (in any way) to know how sorry I am. It&apos;s not right, it&apos;s not just, and you don&apos;t deserve that pain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/85825.html&quot;&gt;at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=52693&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:50:46 GMT</pubDate>
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  <description>I&apos;m on the bus back from Baltimore to NYC. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was a good weekend in the Charm City. The conference didn&apos;t go quite as well as I would have liked, mostly because it was a little outside my expertise and also because it was only a single day - felt like just once I was getting into the swing of things the event was over. I think I was spoiled a bit by my last conference being spread over three days. At a minimum I got exposed to some interesting ideas that I hadn&apos;t been exposed to before. It focused on the intersection of race and gender, and asked whether there were distinctly different concepts of being male or female (or black/white/whatever shade of brown/etc.) mattered).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the interested, I started out with a basic line of thought that has really bothered me in the healthcare debate: the idea that being forced to buy insurance was an infringement on your liberty. Now, we can disagree over whether forcing everyone to buy a service from a private company is the best way of organizing health care. And we can ask whether we need to tie it in to having a job or not; and whether choices like smoking, exercise level, fat intake, etc. should impact premiums. All of these are legitimate debates. But just because you don&apos;t like having to buy health insurance doesn&apos;t mean you&apos;re the only one impacted by &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; buying health insurance. Specifically, when you can&apos;t pay for care (one way or another) you force a ahrd choice on &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt;: either pay for your care or allow you ot suffer. That second option makes me go against a relationship we have (as neighbors, fellow citizens, fellow humans, whatever). And relationships matter, particularly to women. They seem significant, and forcing me to violate my relationships seems immoral somehow. That issue just hasn&apos;t entered into the debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I started by talking about someone named Carol Gilligan. She basically said that men typically think in terms of mrules and women tend to think in terms of relationships. The problem is, if you want to move beyond talking about what people &lt;i&gt;actually&lt;/i&gt; do to what they &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; do, you run into a problem. Either you have to say men are better than women or women are better than men - a problem for obvious reasons! - or you have to say there&apos;s some way we can explain how they&apos;re equal, even though they aim after different traits. One approach stems from gender essentialism, and it&apos;s basically the idea that character traits (say, being nurturing) make you a good woman but a bad man. There&apos;s some pretty obvious sexism there and it also makes women into a separate group from men, rather than two halves of the same whole. Which is, you know, not particularly cool.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The third way that I wanted to look at (surprise, surprise) came from Anselm. He said that good humans love well. We recognize the things we &lt;i&gt;ought&lt;/i&gt; to love and then love it. But it&apos;s a two-way street; particularly with God but also with other things, our love helps us know something&apos;s worth. It directs our attention, it inspires awe and hope and other things that help motivate us to really think about something. There&apos;s a single activity that good humans ought to do, but you need both the rule approach we associate with love and the caring/relational approach we associate with women. As the old line goes, &lt;i&gt;God took Eve not from the head of Adam to rule over him, nor from his feet so she might be trampled by him, but God took Eve from Adam&apos;s side to stand beside him.&lt;/i&gt; Or something like that. The basic idea is you have an ethics for humans but it respects &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; the human psyche, male and female and everything in between. Which, frankly, traditional ethics hasn&apos;t done such a great job of!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway. Enough deep thought, and enough focusing on this paper. Back to God-talk and the ontological argument for me. For now, I&apos;m happy to watch the world pass by.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking of, this meme from FB completely cracked me up:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/52461.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=52461&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 23:23:05 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Synchroblog, April 2012: on faith seeking understanding, truth, and theology</title>
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  <description>Many atheist friends of mine (I’m thinking of Dan Fincke in particular, but I’m sure I’ve heard the point other places as well) describe “faith” as being more sure of something than is warranted by the available evidence. It’s not a complement. The thought, as I understand it, is that we should only believe things we have good &lt;i&gt;reason&lt;/i&gt; to think are true, and that there’s no good reason to believe God exists. So people who &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; believe God exists are either making a factual mistake (they think there’s evidence but there isn’t), or otherwise they’re wrong to think we don’t &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; that evidence. Either way, all theists are being irrational.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously I don’t agree with this in every situation or I wouldn’t be a theist. &lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/48430.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;on theology being &apos;true&apos;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___2&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/48430.html#cutid2&quot;&gt;on heaven, hell, and a rather messed-up kind of justice&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___2&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=48430&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:31:45 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>your daily dose of laughter</title>
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  <description>Because friends don&apos;t let friends do philosophy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/47947.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/76230.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=47947&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>more on that infanticide article</title>
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  <description>I wrote a few weeks back about the by-now infamous bioethics journal article comparing late-term abortions to infanticide. (My &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/68150.html&quot;&gt;initial thoughts&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/70017.html&quot;&gt;a later reaction&lt;/a&gt;.) Now Andrew Brown over at &lt;i&gt;The Guardian&lt;/i&gt; is weighing in:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2012/feb/29/infanticide-repellent-killing-newborns&quot;&gt;Infanticide is repellent. Feeling that way doesn&apos;t make you Glenn Beck.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to Mr. Brown:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In any case, the piece was picked up by the website of the immensely popular rightwing American Mormon, Glenn Beck. The commentators there – who probably already believe that there is no difference between abortion and infanticide, or believe that they believe this – erupted in predictable fury. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Savulescu [the journal editor] claims that he and the authors have received death threats.  In his blogpost he wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;What is disturbing is not the arguments in this paper nor its publication in an ethics journal. It is the hostile, abusive, threatening responses that it has elicited. More than ever, proper academic discussion and freedom are under threat from fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Brown goes on to argue that this is ridiculous, concluding, &quot;If &quot;the very values of a liberal society&quot; include killing inconvenient babies, or discussing their killing as if this was something reasonable and morally competent human beings might choose to do, then liberalism really would be the monster that American conservatives pretend it is.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, Mr. Brown is a well-respected journalist, the section editor of a major paper, and I have no reason to doubt his intelligence. But here&apos;s the thing: that&apos;s such a simplistic reaction to the issues at play here, that I&apos;m struggling a bit to see how to reply. Whatever I think of the article (and I still haven&apos;t had time to read it, so can&apos;t comment on it directly - I know, shame on me), I would &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; find it deeply upsetting to think that a professional philosopher should get freaking &lt;b&gt;death threats&lt;/b&gt; for anything he wrote in an academic journal. I found it astounding when a legislator got a brick through his campaign headquarter&apos;s window after he signed Obama&apos;s healthcare legislation, and politicians have in a certain sense signed on to be in the limelight. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not so with academics. If we&apos;ve gotten to the point where private citizens can&apos;t testify before a Congressional committee and be called &quot;slut&quot; for their efforts, where a university professor publishing in an academic journal could have his life threatened - well as someone whose academic interests touch on that powderkeg that is religious practice, I do have a dog in that particular fight. And yes, that is a key value of liberalism: that people are free to express ideas. And yes, you are free to disagree with my ideas. But you don&apos;t get to intimidate me from having or expressing them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Brown also takes aim at the article itself. He seems to think it&apos;s advocating infanticide, and asks what we would think about sex-selective infanticide. And as I said, I&apos;ve not read the original article, but I have read several different summaries of it by people both friendly and not-so. I&apos;ve also read the other articles the journal editor cites as originating the arguments these bioethicists are building on, and I&apos;d be very surprised if they were actually advocating infanticide. (If they are, I&apos;d say that&apos;s a big mistake on their parts, but that their basic point can survive without that claim.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More likely, I&apos;d expect Giubilini and Minerva to argue for something more subtle. If a fetus one day before birth and a child one day after are as similar in their features as (say) a one-day and three-day old child, then you&apos;d expect there to be similar standards for how we treat them. Namely, if it&apos;s wrong to kill a newly-born child in certain circumstances, then it should also be wrong to kill an about-to-be-born fetus in those same circumstances. And vice versa; if abortion is permissible in circumstance X one day before birth, then infanticide should also be morally permissible in circumstance X one day after birth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&apos;s actually a perfectly reasonable position, at least when we&apos;re talking about morality. (The law doesn&apos;t always have to coincide with morality precisely, though it should try to minimize the effects of bad behavior on other people so ethics is obviously a part of what makes a good or bad law.) But nothing about this means infanticide will always be okay. Mr. Brown gets this precisely when he says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The equation of abortion with infanticide is central to the rhetoric of many anti-abortionists. It is something that most pro-choicers emphatically reject. For them, the moral justification of abortion lies in the fact that an embryo is not a human being, whereas a newborn baby is. The moral status of a foetus changes over time in the womb, and while there will always be arguments about when the change should be recognised, there is wide agreement that a time limit on abortion is morally significant.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, precisely. So if an abortion is immoral one day before birth - as almost all of them would be - it&apos;s just as immoral a day later. From the snatches of the article I&apos;ve read, it seems like Giubilini and Minerva go too far in this category, proposing that neo-infanticide is morally permissible if the family&apos;s financial circumstance changes. I think it&apos;s really reprehensible to kill a one-day old child because you can&apos;t afford to raise it. But that&apos;s not because it&apos;s a born human, but because it&apos;s much further along its path toward acquiring personhood than a fetus a few weeks after conception is. It would be equally horrendous to abort a fetus in the last day of pregnancy, and even if the law didn&apos;t call that murder, and even if I don&apos;t consider it morally murder (since the fetus/infant isn&apos;t fully human yet), it&apos;s still a seriously wrong act. In either case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This answers Mr. Brown&apos;s concern about sex-selective infanticide. Of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; it&apos;s immoral to kill a newly-born baby because you&apos;d like a son rather than a daughter. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that said daughter is now born. In fact, I&apos;d go so far to say this kind of abortion is &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; permissible unless we&apos;re talking about a cultural situation where a daughter&apos;s life really will be miserable. In that case, &lt;i&gt;maybe&lt;/i&gt; you could make a lesser of two evils argument. But even then, at the time the fetus/child distinction becomes an issue you&apos;ve known (or could have known) the fetus was a girl for months. I can&apos;t think of a reason in the world why this claim, that gender-driven abortions should be permissible even in the latter stages of pregnancy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My basic approach is that personhood doesn&apos;t fully attach until some time after birth, when the child can start making its own choices. But that it&apos;s also not an either/or situation, and the child and late-term fetus has &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; degree of personhood all along, always increasing, so the longer the pregnancy has gone on, the better a reason you need for an abortion to be moral. There are other factors involved, too, like whether the fetus has to take over someone else&apos;s body to continue living and whether other people will think of the fetus as a person even if it isn&apos;t one. (Killing a born child that others can see looks like a mini-person &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; to effect whether we think it&apos;s okay to kill other full persons, so there&apos;s a higher bar to meet there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&apos;s a complicated issue, to be sure. But that&apos;s precisely why we need experts to think and talk about this issue. Just like we need Georgetown law students to be able to testify about sex and how our policies re: contraceptives impact their lives is necessary, if we&apos;re going to work out whether a certain law is just or not. Calling for a philosopher&apos;s death because they wrote a challenging article &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; make you like Glenn Beck, and not in a good way. With all respect to Mr. Brown, it just does. That&apos;s a line you just don&apos;t cross.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/75935.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=47829&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:38:14 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>The War on Terror and the War on Women</title>
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  <description>&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;(Written for the March 2012 synchroblog; links TBA.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;I have a secret: for years now, I&apos;ve wished I was eligible for the selective service.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;In my country, at the age of eighteen all the guys have to register for the military draft. They don&apos;t actually have to&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;serve&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;, and chances are negligible that they&apos;ll be called up, since (for all our wars) America has been an all-volunteer army since I believe Vietnam. But ever since I&apos;ve figured out how committed of a pacifist I am, I&apos;ve wanted the ability to declare to God, country, and the world at large that there wasn&apos;t anyone&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;representin&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;me in this war, either.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;I want to be clear about something: I respect what our veterans are trying to do. I nod at them out of respect when I see them on campus, and I&apos;ve gotten in the habit of picking up pastries every week or two for my veteran neighbor, as a small token of gratitude. I also would gladly pay any tax asked of me to improve their safety while in service and their recovery once they leave. It&apos;s the generals and the contractors I have a beef with. I don&apos;t think our current wars are just, and given our track record of judicial process for people accused of war crimes and quasi-legal neverending wars, I think it will be a long time before I&apos;d find an actual war I could support. And that&apos;s my point. I want the right to register as a conscientious objector to document this fact. Because I am not expected to fight, someone else &amp;quot;covers&amp;quot; me by default, so I get no say in the matter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;It&apos;s not just that theoretical point that bothers me, though. At the tender age of seventeen, I was a registered Republican and generally supported the idea of bringing democracy to the world, but I also wasn&apos;t sure now I felt about killing someone for that cause or any other, and so I asked my history teacher what were my options if I was morally opposed to war. He told me that I wasn&apos;t required to register for the draft, and when I asked why he explained that &amp;quot;Uncle Sam&amp;quot; didn&apos;t want to take mothers away from their children, or put children in homes with a mum suffering from PTSD. I&apos;m now a few months shy of thirty years old, still happily single and happily child-free, in a doctoral program that I hope will lead to a professorship. In the meantime I am happy with my hobbies, my volunteer work, my church, and my friends both online and offline. I am living the life of the mind in a truly vibrant city, and it&apos;s a good life - just not the one my high school teacher thought I was destined for.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;I thought about all this when I heard someone use the phrase &amp;quot;war on women&amp;quot; for the umpteenth time in a newspaper editorial this morning. Again, let me be clear: I think preventive birth control is a good thing, and I think subsidized or insurance-covered birth control is an even&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;bett&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;thing because it vies lower-class women the same liberties I have to manage their sexuality and its consequences. But every time I hear that phrase I bristle just a little bit (and sometimes quite a lot), because it carries with it the suggestion that as a woman I am defined by the bits of anatomy between my legs. It also suggests that if I personally didn&apos;t think of fertility like a disease, I would not be included in the collective of womanhood that was under attack. I&apos;ve been on the receiving end of people telling me what it means to be a real woman, to feel comfortable with that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;Given that this is a SynchroBlog post, I feel a strong pull to somehow tie this back to my religion. I could cite the many different roles women serve throughout the Bible, from Miriam to Esther to Mary Magdalene, and those stories&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;relevant. The problem is, they&apos;re part of a fabric that stretches beyond any one religious or literary tradition. I could just as easily point to Eowyn and B&apos;Elanna Torres and Brenda Leigh Johnson and all the other strong women of literature. They weren&apos;t all shieldmaidens, either. Often as not, womanhood is as varied as human nature (as well it should be!). Our battle-cries need to reflect that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/71900.html&quot;&gt;posted to LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br type=&quot;_moz&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=45896&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 22:16:39 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>more on abortion, infanticide, and personhood</title>
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  <description>&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;I actually saw this one coming a mile away:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;&lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;http://blog.christianitytoday.com/women/2012/03/what_the_afterbirth_abortion_a.html&quot; href=&quot;http://blog.christianitytoday.com/women/2012/03/what_the_afterbirth_abortion_a.html&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot;&gt;What the &apos;After-Birth Abortion&apos; and &apos;Personhood&apos; Debates Have in Common&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;A few weeks back I wrote about a journal article proposing that infanticides just after birth should have the same legal status as abortions just before. Meaning that they should be legal if the mother&apos;s welfare was at risk, and not even called infanticides. I find this claim preposterous, and I tried my best to explain why. Basically, I think there&apos;s a big distinction between legal status and moral status.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;ChristianityToday, a major online and print magazine in the evangelical (not necessarily conservative, not necessarily fundamentalist, but just evangelical) publishing world made the above post in one of their associated blogs. Basically, the argument goes, this whole debate over infanticide comes from the recognition that there&apos;s no recognizable distinction between a fetus and an infant, meaning we should give &amp;nbsp;all the rights of an infant to a fetus. Think the personhood bills you&apos;ve seen put out in U.S. states like Mississippi and Colorado.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;The problem here is that the concepts of &amp;quot;fetus&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;born human&amp;quot; (to say nothing of human and person generally) are really not so simple, and we&apos;re using them like they are. I tend to think the whole abortion debate would be much, much easier if we thought about what we meant by a fetus. I&apos;ll grant that a fetus a minute before birth has more in common with an infant one minute after birth, than it does with a fetus one minute after conception. I&apos;ll even grant that some of the ways these three things are similar and different are morally relevant. All that proves, though, is that a fetus is a distinction where the members in it don&apos;t all have the same moral status.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;There are a lot of big philosophical words floating around in there, so let me try to make this simpler. I&apos;ll give you that it&apos;s morally wrong to kill a fetus one minute before it&apos;s born. (Allowing the usual exceptions for self-defense, etc.) That doesn&apos;t mean it should be morally wrong to kill&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;fetus. And, just for the record, it doesn&apos;t actually mean it should be&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;illegal&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to kill a fetus one minute before birth. The law&apos;s a blunt instrument and may not be up to the task of splitting that moral hair. It just means that not all fetuses are in the same position, morally speaking.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;While we&apos;re on the concept of distinctions, it&apos;s worth looking at one more: human vs. person. On one definition, it&apos;s quite obvious that a newly-fertilized zygote is human. So is an amputated leg or fingernail clippings. Human here just means &amp;quot;has human DNA&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;has human cellular structure.&amp;quot; But a doctor who amputates a leg to save the patient doesn&apos;t have to go through a hospital board inquiry, and I didn&apos;t have to explain to the police why I cut my nails last night. There&apos;s another definition of &amp;quot;human,&amp;quot; which philosophers both prefer to call &amp;quot;person&amp;quot; to avoid speciesism and to avoid the confusion of using human in more than two ways. Persons are members of the moral community, things that have rights and responsibilities. Some philosophers use &amp;nbsp;the ability to feel pain; more common is the sentience idea, or the ability to act on something other than just instinct. But when a scientist or a bioethicist talks about a fetus being human, they don&apos;t usually mean it in the personhood case.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;So to sum up:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -0.25in; &quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;padding-right: 40px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;line-height: normal; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;Yes, fetuses are (genetically) human.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;line-height: normal; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -0.25in; &quot;&gt;No, not all fetuses are humans/persons in the moral sense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;line-height: normal; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -0.25in; &quot;&gt;The solution is not to call a zygote a person &amp;ndash; it is to recognize that fetuses exist along a continuum, and while&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;text-indent: -0.25in; &quot;&gt;some&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -0.25in; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;may reasonably be called a person, not all can.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;line-height: normal; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -0.25in; &quot;&gt;So: drop this drive to call a zygote a person. It&apos;s not helping.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am actually as dismayed by this journal article&apos;s claim as anyone else. The solution, though, isn&apos;t to double down and insist all fetuses are people. It&apos;s to recognize the very real difference between a zygote smaller than the period at the end of this sentence, and an eight-month old human baby that could survive on its own outside the womb.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; &quot;&gt;It also wouldn&apos;t hurt to distinguish between a late-term fetus&apos;s right to life, and the mother of a late-term fetus&apos;s obligation to preserve that life. She may have such an obligation based on her past actions of not terminating the pregnancy, not using appropriate birth control, etc. (depending on the situation &amp;ndash; this is a big if), but it&apos;s&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;all about a &amp;quot;right to life.&amp;quot; There are other concerns that play out here, and the dueling claims in this situation are&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;complicated&lt;/i&gt;. You don&apos;t do anyone any good by pretending this is a simple issue.&lt;/p&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/70017.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=45545&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:00:06 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>abortion and infanticide</title>
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  <description>&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;When I read something that takes what I believe and carries it to its natural conclusion (or what seems like that), I find it very upsetting &amp;ndash; almost violent. That happened today, when I saw a moderate-conservative friend on FB commenting on an article:&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ethicists-argue-in-favor-of-after-birth-abortions-as-newborns-are-not-persons/&quot;&gt;Ethicists Argue in Favor of &apos;After-Birth Abortions&apos; as Newborns &apos;Are Not Persons&apos;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Now, there are lots of things that made me skeptical about the post. When I loaded the article it had an ad for Goldline and Glenn Beck TV. An issue that seemed mostly secular ethics was listed under &amp;quot;Faith.&amp;quot; The first two columnists listed on their contributors page are Glenn Beck and Rick Santorum. And so on. But the article certainly isn&apos;t raving. If anything, it seemed remarkably matter-of-fact given the subject matter. Apparently some university-affiliated ethicists down in Australia are advocating for a legal right to what they call &amp;quot;after-abortion,&amp;quot; and what the rest of us (including me) call infanticide or just plain old murder.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;The thing is, there&apos;s a lot in that basic argument that&apos;s similar to some things I&apos;ve argued in the past. I don&apos;t believe a zygote produced from a human sperm and a human egg is a full-fledged person. And I don&apos;t think the fetus magically acquires the traits that make us human in one fell swoop when its head passes out of the mother&apos;s womb. Its moral status the moment before it is born is more or less its status just after it&apos;s birth. But I stop way before we get to the point suggested this article suggests those Aussie ethicists take it to, so I thought I&apos;d try to work through why. This may only end up being interesting to me. :-)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;First, the false start: that a law outlawing infanticide doesn&apos;t actually say you &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; kill your children, but just that it should be an individual choice. I know pro-choice people (myself included) tend to talk about giving people the right to choose an abortion even when we believe it&apos;s the wrong choice. I think there&apos;s something to be said for letting people make their own choice &amp;ndash; and making everything illegal takes away possibilities of doing the right thing for the right reason. But as Michael Sandel put it in his very well-done book &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Justice-Whats-Right-Thing-Do/dp/0374532508/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1330488336&amp;amp;sr=8-1&quot;&gt;Justice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, this in itself is a moral position and rests on the assumption that people can reasonably disagree over whether the fetus is a person. I would never say e.g. that people should have the right to decide whether to kill their eight-year-old child. Or even their one-minute-old child.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;But I do think there&apos;s a legitimate difference the &lt;i&gt;Blaze &lt;/i&gt;author is skipping past. There are real moral differences between a newly-fertilized ovum and a fetus about to be born. I can&apos;t necessarily point to a specific day when it is a person and before it wasn&apos;t. This is one of the things that drive me crazy about the abortion debate: as if just because I can&apos;t point to a hard dividing point, that means there&apos;s no difference between the extremes. (Evolution tells us there are all kinds of intermediate states between a chimpanzee and &lt;i&gt;homo sapiens&lt;/i&gt;, so perhaps in some case you would struggle to know whether one of the linking individuals between the two groups, but no one would mistake one for the other.)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I am willing to accept the very real possibility that a fetus is sentient or even rational at some point in its development, and so would be a person. This was actually portrayed very well in the last &lt;i&gt;Twilight&lt;/i&gt; movie, where Edward senses Renesme&apos;s thoughts before she is born and suddenly she seems real to him and worthy of moral consideration. As it happens, I think the law is ill-equipped to handle that distinction, but I&apos;m thinking about the issue more from a morality standpoint anyway. Even before then, there can be reasons &amp;ndash; good reasons &amp;ndash; why it&apos;s wrong to kill a non-human animal. It&apos;s just not murder.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;There&apos;s also another distinction that the Aussie ethicists &lt;i&gt;totally overlooked&lt;/i&gt; if they&apos;re being fairly reported. I have no hard evidence that the &lt;i&gt;Blaze&lt;/i&gt; is taking them out of context, but do consider the source. Also, this is so basic that if they&apos;re university-affiliated philosophers I&apos;d be very surprised, since this is a rather significant and well-known distinction. It&apos;s that simply because you have a moral right to an abortion, it doesn&apos;t mean you have a moral right to kill the fetus. You have a right to keep it from using your body, and it may be a scientific fact that without those nutrients it &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; die, but that doesn&apos;t give you the right to cut its throat or shoot it if somehow it survived being separated from your body. So the mother could &lt;i&gt;maybe&lt;/i&gt; say she didn&apos;t want to care for the child after giving birth to it, and she could surrender it to the state or someone else.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I find that a bit iffy, actually, given that the mother&apos;s had nine months to decide whether she wants the child, but I can see a few exceptions &amp;ndash; like if she had carried it to term with the express intent of giving the child up for adoption, or if there were some new circumstances she hadn&apos;t planned on (like a birth defect where she wasn&apos;t prepared to raise the child). But this idea that it might be cruel to the mother for her to know her child is out there somewhere doesn&apos;t hold up for me. Lots of things are cruel, and we usually accept that as long as they aren&apos;t &lt;i&gt;intentionally&lt;/i&gt; cruel. Life just stinks sometimes, whether as a consequence of our own choice or something done to us. Society can do what it can to mitigate the suffering (perhaps keeping the mother&apos;s identity a secret from the child if that&apos;s what she wants, or placing the child with parents in a different part of the country to minimize the chances mother and child will meet up.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;But only up to a point. Certainly not up to the point of killing another person. I don&apos;t know enough about obstetrics or early pediatrics to say for sure this child is rational or for sure this child is sentient from the very second it leaves the womb. But it&apos;s well on its way, and it at least has the potential for those traits &amp;ndash; a nervous system, for instance. The mother never had the right to kill the fetus, but even if she did, I&apos;d say she had less and less of a claim to that right as the fetus/child approached personhood.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;By the way, &lt;i&gt;National Catholic Register&lt;/i&gt;, when you wrote:&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The second we allow ourselves to become the arbiters of who is human and who isn&apos;t, this is the calamitous yet inevitable end. Once you say all human life is not sacred, the rest is just drawing random lines in the sand.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;You&apos;re breaking your own standard in the space of two sentences. If you&apos;re saying anything with human genetic material is a human, that &lt;i&gt;is &lt;/i&gt;a definition of human. And when you&apos;re excluding acts like biopsying (living, genetically human) cancerous cells from your definition of murder, you&apos;re also excluding some genetically-human, living organisms from the classification of humanity. We all do philosophy; some of us are just more explicit about this fact than others.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;All said, I think those ethicists are either misreported or went too far (and how). That doesn&apos;t make my position that life doesn&apos;t begin at conception wrong, though.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally posted at LJ; please &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/68150.html&quot;&gt;Comment there&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=45143&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:38:06 GMT</pubDate>
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  <description>&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;My friend Dan Fincke has an interesting post up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers/2012/02/23/top-q-what-does-it-most-decisively-mean-to-believe-disbelieve-or-lack-belief/&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot; style=&quot;font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot; href=&quot;http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers/2012/02/23/top-q-what-does-it-most-decisively-mean-to-believe-disbelieve-or-lack-belief/&quot;&gt;about &amp;quot;covert&amp;quot; atheists and theists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;. He starts by describing two types of atheists:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;There are at least two broad kinds of avowed atheists who take two distinct kinds of stances on the status of their belief. One is the atheist in the widest possible sense-one who claims to passively lack any belief in any gods by simply refraining from believing in them rather than outright making a metaphysical claim that &amp;quot;gods do not exist.&amp;quot; The other broad kind of avowed atheist also lacks belief in all gods but is willing to say she either disbelieves in gods or believes (or even knows) based on the preponderance of evidence that there are no gods.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Dan then goes on to develop what you might call a functional test for these kinds of atheism. Essentially, if you act like these groups, so that there is no practical difference between you and them, it may make sense to call you an atheist. Or conversely, if an atheist acts like a theist even while claiming not to believe in a god, that person can perhaps be classified as an atheist. This is the heart of Dan&apos;s post, actually, and he leaves it open-ended:&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;we classify someone as X if their actions make them indistinguishable from other X-ers, even if the person swears up and down that she&apos;s a not-X?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Dan gives two examples to help us think about this. First, there&apos;s the problem of grief. Dan asks, &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;To what extent do [the theists&apos;] normal fears of death and deep mourning of lost ones they ostensibly believe in heaven betray functional disbelief in heaven?&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot; Basically, as I understand him, Dan&apos;s saying that if you believe in an afterlife of some kind you shouldn&apos;t be sorry that a loved one has gone on to it, or be afraid of dying yourself. The fact that the theist&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;feel these things proves that she isn&apos;t really convinced there&apos;s an afterlife after all, Dan suggests. (He also offers a similar analysis of covert theists, that is, people who claim to be atheists but when in distress wonder whether they should pray.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Now, I have some problems with this account. First of all, I don&apos;t agree with Dan&apos;s point that it&apos;s inconsistent to believe in an afterlife and still grieve the death of a loved one or fear your own death. Essentially I think that bodily life is a good thing cut short by an early death, and that you don&apos;t gain anything by going on to any kind of an afterlife sooner rather than later. So whether or not it&apos;s&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to believe in heaven and hell or their various analogs in any other religion, there&apos;s not really anything&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;inconsistent&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in those two beliefs. I also have my doubts about functional definitions because you can get the same result with two very different beliefs (for example, someone who thinks she should turn in a found wallet to the police and acts on that belief, versus someone who thinks she should keep the wallet but lacks the strength of character to act on that belief).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;But those points aside, there&apos;s a really interesting issue in the distinction Dan draws between these two types of atheists. As I understand it - and keep in mind, this is the pre-coffee Marta, which shall be purchased and consumed on my way to campus in a bit - Dan is talking about people in both cases who have a specific concept of a god and we don&apos;t think anyone meets that definition. One type &amp;shy;rejects the idea that any of the usual (or unusual, for that matter) candidate is in fact a god; the other makes the positive claim that &amp;quot;no gods exist.&amp;quot; But in both cases, you have an idea of what would constitute a god, and you&apos;re taking a position that nothing actually meets that definition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;The trouble is, as soon as you have an idea in mind, I&apos;d say you&apos;re already letting God exist in a sense. This is Anselm&apos;s basic point: to even talk about something (including God) meaningfully, you have to know what it is you&apos;re talking about, but to do that you have to have an object of thought. At a minimum a god &amp;quot;exists&amp;quot; inside your mind even if it doesn&apos;t exist anywhere else. The thought is that it&apos;s wrong at that point to say &amp;quot;There is no God&amp;quot; unless you&apos;re very careful to talk about the concepts as what other people mean by them rather than ideas you&apos;ve internalized.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Anselm explains the distinction here through the painter analogy:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;For, it is one thing for an object to be in the understanding, and another to understand that the object exists. When a painter first conceives of what he will afterwards perform, he has it in his understanding, but he does not yet understand it to be, because he has not yet performed it. But after he has made the painting, he both has it in his understanding, and he understands that it exists, because he has made it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Anselm has just said that whenever we hear or say a word &amp;ndash; if proper communication is occurring &amp;ndash; we must know what we&apos;re talking about, implying that we have the idea in mind. We can disagree about whether there&apos;s anything in the world beyond our mind, sure, just like the painter can wonder whether the idea he has in his mind actually corresponds with an idea he has in mind or whether it&apos;s&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;an object of thought at that point; but it&apos;s an object of thought, whatever else it might be.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;The way around this is that if you&apos;re going to say the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;concept&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;of God is ill-formed. Basically, if you think it&apos;s a concept that involves a contradiction, so it&apos;s theoretically impossible that anything meets the definition (as opposed to it being possible but as it works out no one actually meets the definition), then you aren&apos;t communicating in the normal way. When you say &amp;quot;God&amp;quot; it doesn&apos;t describe a concept you have in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;your&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;mind. Rather, you&apos;re using it in a way my adviser calls parasitically: you&apos;re taking on someone else&apos;s concept and using it on their terms, but you&apos;re not really saying it makes sense to you. So if you think (e.g.) God can&apos;t create a rock so big He couldn&apos;t lift it so&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;nothing&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;could be omnipotent, you&apos;re likely to say that any conception of a god who has the characteristic of omnipotence isn&apos;t even possible. Meaning you can&apos;t have Him as an object of thought, though you could still talk about other people&apos;s (faulty) conceptions of Him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I personally think this distinction is helpful toward making sense of language. Consider the statements (a) &amp;quot;Legolas is the Prince of Ithilien&amp;quot; and (b) &amp;quot;William is the prince of England.&amp;quot; (b) is objectively true since there&apos;s an individual named William and, yes, he does hold that title. (a) turns out to be false but for entirely different reasons. There is a fictional character called Legolas, and he is a prince, but he&apos;s not the prince of Ithilien. However, none of this depends on the objective reality; it&apos;s just a set of fictions developed by an author and known by fans of the book. The statement is false because if you denied any of the claims I listed above you wouldn&apos;t be describing the situation depicted in the book. But it&apos;s not like we can consult the official records of Ithilien and fail to find Legolas listed among them. There&apos;s a different standard of truth; indeed, a different concept of what it means to be true is at work. Similarly, a statement that works with a contradictory concept wouldn&apos;t be true or false in the same way either of these are; if in fact you could say&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;true&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;or&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;false&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;apply at all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;None of this is intended as a criticism of Dan&apos;s position, btw. As I said this is Marta pre-coffee (soon to be rectified), and it&apos;s possible I&apos;ve misunderstood what Dan was getting at with his post. But even if I am misreading him, I do think it&apos;s useful to distinguish between the atheist who simply doesn&apos;t believe anything in the world satisfies the definition of God, versus someone who says the concept itself is nonsense. The kind of evidence we&apos;d expect in the two cases would be completely different.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Now off to get my java-fix. Feel free to tell me what you think of all this in the comments.&lt;/p&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/67631.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=44740&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 01:17:35 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>the cross and the implant</title>
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  <description>&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:8.4pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.4pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;&quot;&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been following the controversy over birth control coverage for some time. It touches on an experience I had several months back, when I discovered that my student health insurance (I&amp;#39;m a graduate student at a private Catholic university). I was either misinformed or else the policy changed, because I recently learned that I could get birth control if I saw a private doctor and the insurance would pay for it. But I remember how upset I was when I thought I was being forced to live by someone else&amp;#39;s morality &amp;ndash; and do bear in mind I don&amp;#39;t actually need or use birth control! &amp;ndash; so I have a lot of empathy for the women whose health care choices are being forced into the public square.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/43618.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-top:8.4pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.4pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/66658.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=43618&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:02:21 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>He Is That He Is</title>
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  <description>It&apos;s a lovely, unseasonably warm afternoon. The faculty dining room had good food I could stomach (the quality is always good; but I&apos;m an exceptionally picky eater with shrooms and veggies). Week&apos;s grading is done and I think I&apos;ve finally settled on books for summer school In short, I&apos;m having a good afternoon by any of the normal metrics. I haven&apos;t been sleeping well (basically since I&apos;ve seen &quot;The Grey&quot; two days ago), but for once relaxed and at peace rather than exhausted beyond all measure. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of which sets up your standard Marta epiphany. &lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/43401.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/66557.html&quot;&gt;Originally posted in LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=43401&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:41:10 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Faith in Things Unseen</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;*rushes in with noise-makers and cake*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday I had planned to write about &lt;a href=&quot;http://pandemonium_213.livejournal.com/&quot;&gt;pandemonium_213&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#39;s birthday. I had every intention of writing her a nice birthday post, full of meaty science-and-faith thoughts. I&amp;#39;d even planned out a witty opening line about yesterday (now two days ago) being Charles Dawin&amp;#39;s birthday, but even more importantly it was the day before our own pand&amp;euml;&amp;#39;s. :-) But I got a bit obsessed with the unhappy juxtaposition of (1) &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/grammy-embrace-chris-brown-draws-criticism-15576567#.Tzp7rBefbIc&quot;&gt;Chris Brown making a &amp;quot;come-back&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; by performing at the Oscars and (2) the upcoming Valentine&amp;#39;s Day focus on love. I couldn&amp;#39;t quite get my thoughts to go other places, including what I&amp;#39;d wanted to write about.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, first things first. Pand&amp;euml;, I really hope you had a first-class day. Our corner of the interwebs is better for your being part of it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also wanted to say a few words about the topic of atheism, religion, faith and science. I can&amp;#39;t hope that both Pand&amp;euml; and Darwin would approve. Annual posts thinking about the kinds of questions I imagine&amp;nbsp;Pand&amp;euml; asking me are becoming a bit of a tradition, actually!&amp;nbsp;The rest of this post is dedicated to her, though of course the thoughts don&amp;#39;t represent her position. But I do hope the labor of love inherent in pondering deep questions will be a fitting tribute to her. (And as always,&amp;nbsp;Pand&amp;euml;, do feel free to respond honestly, if you want to.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/42925.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=42925&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:51:46 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Aristotle and abortion</title>
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  <description>&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I&apos;m teaching an Aristotle reading tomorrow where he talks about what it means to be a good human. Before he can do that, though, he thinks he has to work through what a human &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;is. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I&apos;ll spare you the details, but asically Aristotle says that what sets us apart is that we can look at a situation and choose to go one way or the other; unlike &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buridan&amp;#39;s_ass&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Buridan&apos;s ass&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;, we can move beyond our impulses. The important thing is that Aristotle defines humanity in terms of some characteristic that we actually have &amp;ndash; not that we might have, not that we&apos;ll someday develop, not that we&apos;ll one day develop. And certainly not that we have human DNA as opposed to orangutan DNA.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;This question has some obvious connections to the whole abortion debate, because a zygote or even a six-week-old fetus has very few qualities. If a human is a choosing thing, can a young fetus do this. Can a newborn baby, for that matter? Aristotle&apos;s account of humanity seems to say that a fetus&apos;s (or for that matter, a small child&apos;s) status as human depends on what it can do. If it can decide whether it wants to play with the red ball or the blue ball, then it&apos;s a human and killing it is murder; if not, then it is still alive (and so can be killed), but maybe that killing doesn&apos;t rise to the level of &lt;i&gt;murder&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;Preparing for class, I wanted to prepare several arguments Aristotle could give for why abortion is wrong without calling it murder, at least in some circumstances. I don&apos;t necessarily agree with them, but I thought it might be fun to discuss them anyway.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. Potential vs. Actual Traits&lt;/b&gt;: Aristotle distinguishes between traits we have right now and traits we have the ability to develop. So while a fetus isn&apos;t human (since it can&apos;t make choices at this point), it has the ability to develop. Aristotle says it&apos;s important that we develop character virtues, which he sees as potential traits we should develop. (So basically, the Adrian Monks of the world should build up their courage, so they can face new and challenging situations, but they&apos;re not courageous until they&apos;ve done that.) I think a story could be told here that people who have a duty to protect a particular child have a duty not to squander that potential.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;(Caveats: I&apos;m almost certain Aristotle would say actual trumps potential, so a mother has a duty to have an abortion if her life is in danger. You could also ask whether certain parents have a duty to a particular fetus. You might argue that until you accept responsibility for it, its not really your responsibility to nurture a fetus just because it&apos;s taken up residence inside you.)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;2. The Duty to Care: &lt;/b&gt;Aristotle defines humans not just as a rational animal but also as a social animal. We develop our virtue in a community, and friendships &amp;ndash; good kinds of friendships built on a love of virtue &amp;ndash; are definitely to be sought after. Treating a fetus as just something getting in the way of our desires objectifies us. And to the extent that we think of it as a human or a potential human, it makes it that much harder to form genuine human relationships. This probably is more true of very young children who weren&apos;t yet able to choose, or fetuses that were old enough they were known to resemble very young humans &amp;ndash; the concern is that by treating fetuses/infants that remind you of mature humans as things, you train yourself to think of &lt;i&gt;real &lt;/i&gt;humans the wrong way.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;(Caveats: Aristotle&apos;s perfectly clear that not only can&apos;t you have a friendship with a non-human, you can&apos;t have a &lt;i&gt;true&lt;/i&gt; friendship unless it&apos;s between equals &amp;ndash; knocking out the parent/child relationship even once the child is born. So this only addresses the way that treating a potential human as a thing damages the mother&apos;s ability to foster &lt;i&gt;future&lt;/i&gt; friendships with fully-mature humans.)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;3. The Practical Harm of Abortion: &lt;/b&gt;Aristotle doesn&apos;t define right and wrong in terms of how much pleasure or pain they generate, but he does recognize its importance. Any abortion will involve physical pain, either from surgery or from cramps and discomfort as the zygote/fetus passes. There&apos;s also the psychological pain, if a woman feels like she has had to kill a human or a potential human; the lost money that went to the abortion; and the social stigma.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;(Caveats: The pain a woman suffers through an abortion may be less than the pain she&apos;d suffer by going through a pregnancy, to say nothing of either adoption or motherhood. And Aristotle&apos;s not totally averse to some suffering, if it leads you to develop character; he seems to be more against &lt;i&gt;pointless&lt;/i&gt; or excessive pain. I&apos;m also not sure how an Aristotelian would count the pain the fetus went through as it died. Since it&apos;s not surviving it can&apos;t have a bad impact on the fetus&apos;s future character.)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;So&amp;hellip; three ways that an Aristotelian could say abortion is not murder but it&apos;s still wrong in most circumstances. Thinking about this, I&apos;m reminded of Bella&apos;s pregnancy in &lt;i&gt;Breaking Dawn&lt;/i&gt;. It seems to me that an Aristotelian would almost certainly disagree with Bella&apos;s initial decision to have a pregnancy that put her life in very real danger (she&apos;s told in no uncertain terms that this child is &lt;i&gt;killing&lt;/i&gt; her) &amp;ndash; but once Edward senses the child&apos;s thoughts, I think at that point an Aristotelian would have a harder time insisting on an abortion. The child is increasingly human (I&apos;d say having actual thoughts, certainly actual desires, is a key marker of being human), and at that point the parents had formed a special attachment to it, so killing Renesme then would lead to the problems I pointed out in #2.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;What do you guys think. If you think abortion is wrong, would these ideas let you condemn it strongly enough without calling abortion murder? Do these ideas put enough value on the mother&apos;s right not to have a fetus take over her body for nine months, maybe even kill her? I&apos;d be interested in peoples&apos; reactions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/64354.html&quot;&gt;Originally posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=41878&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:14:57 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>God and Goodness - A Reply</title>
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  <description>Over at his blog, my friend Dan Fincke posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers/2012/01/30/god-and-goodness/&quot;&gt;a dialogue looking at the connection between goodness and God&lt;/a&gt;. He&apos;s created two fictional characters, a Christian named Robin and an atheist named Jaime, who start out by discussing whether it makes sense to call the God described in the Bible good. They later move to the topic of whether it makes sense to think of &lt;i&gt;goodness &lt;/i&gt;at all, if God did not exist to create it. Jaime eventually works his* way around to an argument that the Yahweh described in the Bible can&apos;t be the God Christians claim to believe in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to explain why Jaime&apos;s argument (at least some of it) doesn&apos;t really hold up for me. But first I want to go on Plato safari, because a lot of the arguments Jaime uses are eerily familiar to the &lt;i&gt;Euthyphro &lt;/i&gt;dilemma about Divine Command Theory. I don&apos;t think I&apos;ve ever explained that philosophical concept before, so I&apos;ll take the opportunity to do that now. That&apos;s section I. Then there are some important distinctions I think Jaime needs to take into account, which I&apos;ll explain in part II. Finally, I&apos;ll try to bring all these concepts together to critique Jaime&apos;s position in part III. If you know the basic gist of the &lt;i&gt;Euthyphro &lt;/i&gt;dilemma you can probably skip down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But first, a quick comment on Dan&apos;s dialogue. Dan usually takes great pains to use gender-neutral names in these dialogues, but these particular names sorted themselves into he&apos;s and she&apos;s rather quickly. That&apos;s because to my mind Jaime that name is pronounced HIE meh, a distinctly masculine name. As for Robin, I had a good female friend with that name so I thought of her immediately. Since gender-neutral pronouns typically drive me crazy, I&apos;m going to go with &quot;he&quot; for Jaime and &quot;she&quot; for Robin, out of convenience. I don&apos;t mean anything else by assigning gender roles, and I hope Dan won&apos;t mind too much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;***********************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/40352.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Part I: The Euthyphro Dilemma&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___2&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/40352.html#cutid2&quot;&gt; Part II: There&apos;s Good, and Then There&apos;s Good&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___2&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cuttag_container&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___3&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.dreamwidth.org/40352.html#cutid3&quot;&gt;Part III: Critiquing Jaime&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___3&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;d be interested in other peoples&apos; thoughts. Do you think it makes sense to describe God as good, in either sense? (Assuming you believe God exists, obviously.) How do you make sense of things like the genocide of the Canaanites? And I&apos;d welcome opinions from theists and atheists on any other point I raised, or that Dan raised and you want to talk about. Have at it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/62491.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=40352&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:09:21 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>on Obamacare, justice, and the public good</title>
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  <description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;I&apos;ve been following the debate over health care mandates, freedom of conscience, and religious exemptions pretty closely. It&apos;s really very interesting and (for me at least) very personal.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;For those of you who aren&apos;t American or, you know, have lives to live that don&apos;t involve watching the news, the new health care bill basically requires everyone to carry insurance. If you can&apos;t afford it, you get a tax-paid subsidy to help out; if you refuse, you pay a penalty to cover the cost of health care if you get sick. The problem is that many companies only offer very minimal coverage &amp;ndash; either really high deductibles (the amount you have to pay before insurance kicks in) or low caps (after which you&apos;re responsible for the bills). So to help with that problem, Congress said that each eligible plan &amp;ndash; meaning, the plans that will let you avoid the penalty &amp;ndash; have to provide a certain level of coverage in several defined areas. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;And one of those areas was reproductive health for women. Anyone familiar with American politics and the *erm* heightened interest anything to do with sex seems to draw. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;Even before the law passed, it was on record that no taxpayer money could go to fund abortions. I wasn&apos;t crazy about that decision, but at the time I accepted as the price of doing business. Personally the thought of people with money deciding what medically-necessary health procedures I should have access to (yes, even if they&apos;re footing the bill) really bothers me. This is basically because I recognize that yes, capitalism is great at encouraging innovation and hard work and all that, but it really and truly sucks at distributing resources in a fair way. I think that middle- and upper-class people are generally overpaid, meaning that we should give up our money to fill the actual needs of the poor. I see this as a &lt;i&gt;moral duty&lt;/i&gt;, and I don&apos;t think I should get to say how that money is actually used. So I don&apos;t think I should be able to tell a poor woman she can&apos;t have an abortion or buy a soda out of their food stamp money (another personal bugabear, brought to you courtesy of Mayor Bloomberg) or whatever, any more than I should be able to tell a rich or middle-class person. But whatever. As I said, with the abortion provision, I do think the ends justified the means there, even if I wasn&apos;t totally comfortable with it.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;Now the government is trying to work out just what insurances should have to cover. One of those areas, as I mentioned above, is reproductive health. Basically, the government wants to force all health insurance plans to cover health insurance &amp;ndash; including plans paid for in part by employers who have traditionally opposed birth control, like the Roman Catholic Church. There are conscience clause exceptions, which basically let people whose jobs are suitably religious in nature (think pastors and priests) buy insurance plans that don&apos;t cover birth control. Sometimes the groups oppose birth control on principle, like the Catholics whose natural law ethics condemn any ejaculation that doesn&apos;t have the goal of procreation. Other times there&apos;s a concern that the some of the birth controls can act as &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortifacient&quot;&gt;abortifacients&lt;/a&gt;, opening up a back door to taxpayer-funded abortions. Still others, usually conservative Protestants, point to the connection between birth control and extramarital sex and don&apos;t want to subsidize promiscuity. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;But whatever the reason, these groups don&apos;t want to limit the conscience clause to clergy and church employees. The conscience exception wouldn&apos;t apply to people whose work wasn&apos;t devoted to religious ends. Like social workers and nurses employed by Catholic charities, for instance. And plans for students at religious universities would have to cover birth control. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;This is where it gets personal for me, because I am a graduate student on stipend at attend a Jesuit (Catholic) university, and I was very much surprised to discover that my health insurance (purchased through my school) doesn&apos;t cover birth control or really anything reproduction-related besides OB-GYN exams. I&apos;m not a member of the Roman Catholic Church, nor do I think I accepted a &amp;quot;Catholic&amp;quot; ethic because I decided to study and teach here. Jesuits just happen to produce the best scholars in my corner of philosophy. As it happens, I don&apos;t need birth control because I&apos;m not sexually active, and I actually think most premarital sex is immoral for various reason. But that&apos;s &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; decision, based on &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; moral choice. And for the majority of the culture that disagrees with me, that&apos;s there moral choice, too. To be perfectly honest, I really resent the idea that some group I never joined up with should decide what kind of health choices I&apos;m able to access.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;(To be clear: this &amp;quot;joined up&amp;quot; idea can be hard to nail down. If you were born into a church and your whole family belonged, staying on the church rosters could just be inertia at work. Or maybe you joined because you agreed with most of the beliefs but not this one. Or maybe you took a job at a Catholic hospital or teaching Spanish at an evangelical high school because it was the only or best opening in your area. None of these should take away your access to medical procedures. But this is doubly so for college students, given how little emphasis students put on the school&apos;s ideology when choosing to go there.)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;This, right here, is why the whole idea of relying on charity for basic needs doesn&apos;t work. The Catholic Church (and the other groups taking similar stances) are saying it&apos;s an affront to their freedom of conscience if they have to pay for my birth control (if I decided I wanted it). I would maybe be okay with that (&lt;i&gt;maybe&lt;/i&gt;) if not for the refrain I keep hearing in politics. We&apos;re told that government is inefficient, that it&apos;s wrong to make people give up their money to support people who didn&apos;t earn it. That Americans are the most generous nation and to just let people hold on to their money so they can donate it willingly. But many, many charities have religious ideologies. Those that don&apos;t tend to have their own ideologies, and many attach requirements to people using their money. That doesn&apos;t sit right with me.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;Think about an analogy. Say someone proposes we slash the budget for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing)&quot;&gt;Section 8 housing&lt;/a&gt;. [for Non-Americans: government $$$ paid to private landlords, to provide lower-income housing for the poor] This is in exchange for a taxcut, with the assumption people will turn around and donate that money to private charities working in their local area. Only those charities have their own ideology, as most do. Say a certain charity has a strong ideological position against smoking. (Perhaps it&apos;s Mormon-backed, whose church considers tobacco use a sin; perhaps the group&apos;s founder just lost a favorite uncle to emphysema and hates smoking.) I can&apos;t help thinking low-income people would be less free under this system than the current one.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;I guess it all comes down to this for me: you can only use those rights you have the power to exercise. I&apos;m all for personal responsibility and saying that if you have enough money to meet your needs if you were smart about it and you squander it, &lt;i&gt;that &lt;/i&gt;you&apos;re responsible for. Maybe those people need to suffer, or maybe there&apos;s room for honest-to-goodness charity there. But if someone isn&apos;t making enough to have a basic standard of living, if they&apos;re trying to find a job and can&apos;t or if the jobs available pay too little, that&apos;s not what charity&apos;s for. They need public funds &amp;ndash; yes, taken from my tax $$$ &amp;ndash; and it&apos;s really not up to me how they spend it. That&apos;s justice.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;text-align:justify&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;Your thoughts?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/62012.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=39948&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:09:06 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Every Sperm is Sacred</title>
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  <description>Over at FaceBook, my friend Edward and I were discussing an article he had posted about the abortion of the disabled. I happened to mention in passing that while I tended to think abortion was immoral in most cases --pro-choice doesn&apos;t always mean pro-abortion-- I also didn&apos;t think early-term abortions were murder because I didn&apos;t think early-term fetuses were human. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edward asked me a perfectly reasonable question, probably the most common question I get when I talk about my views on abortion: how could a fetus conceived by two humans not be human? My answer got a bit long for a comment, so I thought I&apos;d make it a post. Besides, I thought some people might find it interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no problem saying a fetus is genetically human - that it has the genetic code of a human. If that&apos;s all it takes to be a human, then I suppose in that sense Edward is right and the offspring of two humans &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; to be a human. But my understanding of life science --and any scientists, please correct me!-- is that species aren&apos;t just determined by their genetic code. Organisms have a structure, an arrangement of cells. After all, I got my hair cut yesterday and shed nary a tear over the mass genocide of split ends. And we don&apos;t drag doctors before the review board when they excise a cancer and those human cells die, because &lt;i&gt;cells aren&apos;t humans&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&apos;s an intuition I think we all have - that a human involves not just a certain DNA but also a certain structure and (dare I say) a certain set of capabilities. A zygote in the earliest weeks of a pregnancy is a clump of cells. There&apos;s no structure, let alone no characteristic functions of being human. So that clump of cells isn&apos;t a human, though it may have human DNA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our language supports this conclusion. An acorn is not an oak tree, though it comes from an oak tree and will grow into one. Neither is a tadpole a frog in any obvious sense. It lacks critical abilities like the capacity to breathe air rather than air, the existence of legs for jumping, and the like. With humans we tend to use the same word for all stages of development, but I think this is a bit of a misnomer. Or at least it lends itself to misuse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&apos;s where things get tricky. When people say abortion is murder, they usually have an argument in mind along the lines of:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1. It&apos;s always wrong to kill a human (setting aside self-defense, accidents, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;2. A fetus is a human.&lt;br /&gt;3. So it&apos;s always wrong to kill a fetus (setting aside self-defense, accidents, etc.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Problem is, people are using the word &quot;human&quot; in very different ways here. I&apos;ll grant that (1) is true if we&apos;re talking about an adult human who&apos;s able to think and evaluate the situation - a rational animal, in Aristotle&apos;s terminology. I&apos;m even willing to extend that to small children who aren&apos;t yet fully rational but are on their way, and to older fetuses that can react to their environments and show signs of self-awareness, decision-making, etc. But a blastocyst can&apos;t think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, it&apos;s only obvious that (2) is true if we&apos;re talking about a genetic human. Young fetuses --before consciousness-- are only human if we understand human in a very different way here than we did in statement (1). Ergo: equivocation. To avoid that, I have trained myself to only use the term &quot;human&quot; in the first sense (a self-aware being, mainly).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, Christians (myself included) may want to talk about the soul as well. One definition of human is something that has a soul. That is wonderfully unhelpful to my philosopher&apos;s mind because you haven&apos;t explained what a soul is, and what reason you have for thinking that humans have one or that &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; humans have one (making the killing of a human worse than the killing of an ox). But I&apos;ll set aside those issues for the moment. What evidence do we have that the soul enters the body at conception, or implantation, or whenever? I have a vague memory of one of the Catholic saints who said that the soul joined the body at quickening - Innocent III, maybe? I remember Gregory VI (1500s) issued a bull clarifying that abortion was only post-quickening, and that that changed the position of an earlier pope who said abortion was at any point in the pregnancy. The idea that death pre-quickening was an abortion was a bit of an aberration at that point, IIRC. So if the soul doesn&apos;t enter in right away, then until that happens the fetus is only a potential human, not a full human - even though it has human DNA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, those are my thoughts. And yours? Feel free to discuss in the comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/60728.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=39179&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <description>&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;A few days ago I promised Celandine a more in-depth reply to some points she raised in my last post. We were straying into some rather philosophical waters, at least in my mind &amp;ndash; the distinction between knowledge, belief and faith, whether the scientific method required that &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; claims be verifiable, etc. &amp;ndash; and they really deserve their own post. I do promise to get back to that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; &quot;&gt;But before I get to that, Gwynnyd actually made another comment on another track that screamed out &amp;quot;pick me! Pick me!&amp;quot; whenever I started to write about all that knowledge/belief stuff. See, in that last post I had listed a long list of things that some of the &amp;quot;faithful&amp;quot; had done, but then said:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;But to paint all the faithful with this brush is like blaming your local Southern Baptist Church because they share their name with the Westboro crowd. To be sure, the SBC has done and said some things that make my skin crawl and that I heartily disagree with, but I prefer to blame them for their own sins (to use the churchy phrase) and not those who share their name. Similarly, I am one of the faithful but I&apos;m not faithful like &lt;/i&gt;that&lt;i&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;To which Gwynnyd replied:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;But, but&amp;hellip; if I say, &amp;quot;the picture on the right describes the way people of faith approach the world&amp;quot; &amp;ndash; is that wrong? The way &amp;quot;people of faith&amp;quot; approach the problems does &amp;ndash; often &amp;ndash; look exactly like the picture on the right. You tell me you are a &amp;quot;person of faith.&amp;quot; &amp;ndash; head scratch &amp;ndash; How can you object to being grouped in with them if you tell me yourself that you belong to a group with the same name?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;It&apos;s a fascinating question, and one worth pursuing. (Or at least I hope so! It&apos;s one of the questions motivating my dissertation.) And it&apos;s one that comes up in all kinds of contexts. I recently read a piece over at the &lt;i&gt;NY Times&apos; Opinionator&lt;/i&gt; blog (&lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/where-is-europe/&quot; href=&quot;http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/where-is-europe/&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;Where is Europe?&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;; highly recommended to all geography geeks, btw) that basically looked at what people meant by Europe throughout history. The question really depends on who you ask and how you use the word &amp;quot;Europe.&amp;quot; Is it a political ideal? A mass of land? A cultural/religious institution (i.e. Christendom)? A political structure like the E.U.? British people who deny that they are part of Europe may mean one thing by it; cartographers who want to include Russia mean another. You can see similar distinctions come up whenever we try to divide people or places. When I see things like this, I see a question lurking just behind the scenes: do I have a right to assume, when you use a word, that you mean the same thing I would mean by it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Kant famously said (well, famous to philosophers!) that all definitions are analytically true. What he means is basically that the statement &amp;quot;a bachelor is an unmarried man&amp;quot; is always going to be true. So is the statement that &amp;quot;a bachelor is a married man&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a bachelor is a ten-foot-tall orangutan.&amp;quot; When we say &amp;quot;X is Y&amp;quot; we&apos;re not making any claim about how the world &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; is, but really are just talking about what we mean by an external word. That&apos;s an attractive view, to be sure, because there&apos;s something violent in being told you can&apos;t even use words to describe your own thoughts how you want; it reeks of Orwellian doublespeak.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;The problem is, language doesn&apos;t just stay in our own minds. This is a problem Richard Dawkins picked up on in I believe &lt;i&gt;The God Delusion&lt;/i&gt;. Lots of Christians wanted to claim Albert Einstein as one of their own because he often talked about God in his writings. (Perhaps the most famous example is the quote, &amp;quot;God does not play dice with the universe.&amp;quot;) But Dawkins argued &amp;ndash; and I believe he was correct, based on what little I know of Einstein &amp;ndash; that Dawkins&apos;s God is not the God of your standard churchgoer. He did not believe in an intelligence, a first-mover, or someone to whom we could pray and expect a reply. If anything, Einstein used God as sort of shorthand for the whole of the cosmos, or perhaps the sense of mystery that expands beyond our discrete &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; and animates all scientists. Dawkins didn&apos;t object to Einstein being labeled as a believer in this; but he warned that the language could be misleading at best. More likely, it would lead to equivocation: where you use the same word but mean one thing at one place and something else somewhere down the road.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;This is where my guy Anselm can be helpful. Anselm is a medieval monk living in Normandy around the turn of the millennium, and is probably most well-known for his &lt;a data-cke-saved-href=&quot;http://www.iep.utm.edu/ont-arg/&quot; href=&quot;http://www.iep.utm.edu/ont-arg/&quot; lj-cmd=&quot;LJLink&quot;&gt;ontological argument&lt;/a&gt; that God exists. Think of that proof what you will (and you&apos;d be in good company to say it&apos;s hogwash, although not mine), the first part actually has some rather interesting things to say about language. Let&apos;s say I tell you that God exists. You want to disagree with me, but to do that you need to be talking about the same concept (or thing) as I was. Simply saying &amp;quot;God doesn&apos;t exist&amp;quot; won&apos;t cut it, if Kant was right about definitions; we could both have different ideas in mind when we talk about God, so when you say God doesn&apos;t exist, what guarantee is there that the thing I said didn&apos;t exist, was what you had in mind?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Anselm&apos;s solution is rather simple. If I want to talk meaningfully about something you hear, then I must first &amp;quot;understand what [I] hear, and what [I] understand, is in [my] understanding.&amp;quot; So to follow through Anselm&apos;s example, let&apos;s say I claim God exists and you want to say I&apos;m wrong. You must first understand what I mean when I make the sound &amp;quot;God&amp;quot; with my voice, and that concept must exist in your understanding (in your mind) so you can turn around and say that that concept we&apos;re talking about doesn&apos;t exist. Since you&apos;re trying to say that what I meant was wrong, you have to hold the discussion on my terms. The one who makes the first statement basically gets to say what the terms mean. And yes, you can also use God to mean something else entirely, but then you&apos;re no longer engaging with me, and the fact that we&apos;re both making the sound &amp;quot;God&amp;quot; when we talk is really just a big coincidence. According to Anselm, that&apos;s not communication.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;So, back to Gwynnyd&apos;s original question. If Anselm is right &amp;ndash; if I have to use your term on your terms in order to communicate with you &amp;ndash; then I think it follows that the first person &lt;i&gt;also&lt;/i&gt; gets to say when the term is wrong. The flip side of that, though, is that if I &lt;i&gt;don&apos;t&lt;/i&gt; disown how you use the term, your use becomes part of my concept as well. Terms &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; change, but it&apos;s almost always with the permission of the people who are using the terms; or it should be. Otherwise, we run the very real risk of talking at each other rather than with each other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;Take for example that politically-charged term &lt;i&gt;marriage&lt;/i&gt;. At one point it may have been a contract for producing and raising the next generation, and so procreation (and the ability to procreate lawfully) was at the heart of it. But as the people already getting married changed their conception of marriage&apos;s aim &amp;ndash; once procreation wasn&apos;t enough, and things like love and mutual support became key &amp;ndash; the term changed. Since we ought to be consistent, once the people who had the right to define &lt;i&gt;marriage&lt;/i&gt; said it meant a certain kind of loving relationship, I&apos;d argue it&apos;s right to say same-sex couples can get married too. The only way around that is to say marriage means something those couples are incapable of sharing in &amp;ndash; procreation is the obvious answer, or you could argue that men and women complement each other in a way two men never could. But feminism has (at least for me and most people I know my age!) made that second option untenable. Women aren&apos;t intrinsically different from men, so two women could in theory complement each other the same way a man and a woman can. My point here is that once the definition has changed, it&apos;s only fair to apply it consistently; but the initial change has to come from the inside.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt; All of this can seem horribly abstract, I know. But the basic premise is something we Tolkien fans are pretty familiar with. I didn&apos;t read the books until after the movies were released, but from friends who had, I know they often resented what those movies did to the characterizations of certain characters. Gimli was comic relief. Arwen was Xena Warrior Princess. Denethor was&amp;hellip; well, the less said about the Denethor characters most movie fans had in mind, the better, really. To those book fans&apos; mind, there was an influx of people who were using the same word but describing something very different. And the book fans fought back, educated the newbies like me on what the book characters were really like, even came up with linguistic conventions like referring to book!Denethor or movie!Denethor to differentiate two different concepts masquerading as the same thing. It worked, to an extent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; text-align: justify; &quot;&gt;But remember the frustration you felt when someone talked not about PJ&apos;s Denethor but about Denethor full-stop, and you get the frustration I feel when I hear people talking about the &amp;quot;faithful&amp;quot; like we are all Bible-thumping, climate change-denying reactionary luddites. Because there *is* a tradition that provides context to what this term means, just like Tolkien fans have a book to point to, a standard that says this interpretation is not really what this word means anyway. Looking at that tradition seems like a better place to start, than just taking a head-count and going along with majority rules.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*********************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://fidesquaerens.livejournal.com/57814.html&quot;&gt;posted at LJ&lt;/a&gt;; please comment there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=fidesquaerens&amp;ditemid=36844&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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